It was an absolute pleasure to be interviewed on one of my favorite podcasts – Leadermorphosis – which: “explores the emerging world of self-management and progressive organizations”. It’s hosted by Lisa Gill, who is a real thought leader in our space, and a really insightful interviewer.

Our discussion digs into the three stages of self-management adoption that I’ve written about on Medium (Head, Heart, Habit) and how it’s so challenging (and fun) to go through the emotional “messy middle” stage.

We also discuss some of our keystone practices, like feedback, compensation setting, onboarding, and the Role Advice Process. We end with my own epiphany story in realizing what self-management is actually all about. Here’s the link!